
strangelogic
Nov 12, 07:24 PM
When there is a big bug that sneaks into the application but isn't caught before the release of the app. You discover it after several people complain (and several in FB terms is probably thousands) but you can fix the problem in an hour. But then you need to wait 2-3 weeks for the application to be approved by apple. In the mean time you can't do jack **** because the app store is completely controlled by Apple.
Somehow this logic only makes me think that 'complete control' by Apple is a good thing. Something with as many users as FB warrants thorough testing prior to springing it on unsuspecting users. Just because of open source and 'free testing services' provided by the general public (ala Vista) doesn't really justify a lack of internal QA.
I guess now that Apple helped break down the practices of the carriers totally controlling and locking down crippled phones they suddenly are the bad guy.
Not saying their process is perfect, and I think some 'drama' around it will help it evolve - but - the fact that many developers don't bother to test their apps is one part of why the approval process exists.
Somehow this logic only makes me think that 'complete control' by Apple is a good thing. Something with as many users as FB warrants thorough testing prior to springing it on unsuspecting users. Just because of open source and 'free testing services' provided by the general public (ala Vista) doesn't really justify a lack of internal QA.
I guess now that Apple helped break down the practices of the carriers totally controlling and locking down crippled phones they suddenly are the bad guy.
Not saying their process is perfect, and I think some 'drama' around it will help it evolve - but - the fact that many developers don't bother to test their apps is one part of why the approval process exists.
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jclardy
Mar 28, 12:16 PM
People still shop at Radio Shack for more than just oddball connectors, batteries, etc.?
Thats all I ever get there. Pretty much everything else they sell is overpriced.
Thats all I ever get there. Pretty much everything else they sell is overpriced.

clintob
Oct 15, 04:35 PM
No more than sucking on someone's tongue. :)
I'm sorry... somebody had to ask this eventually. About how many times a day do you get an instant message or email from this forum with some kind of innane pickup line? :cool:
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...by the way, my number is 555-21... (couldn't resist)
I'm sorry... somebody had to ask this eventually. About how many times a day do you get an instant message or email from this forum with some kind of innane pickup line? :cool:
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...by the way, my number is 555-21... (couldn't resist)

akac
Aug 7, 11:39 PM
I know we've overdosed on speculation recently, but the MacRumors live transcript from the keynote today contained the following line (from Steve I believe):
10:24 am lots more announcements during the next week
best to just wait and see......
I thought that was for the Universal Binary third party - not Apple's.
10:24 am lots more announcements during the next week
best to just wait and see......
I thought that was for the Universal Binary third party - not Apple's.

balamw
Mar 15, 04:00 PM
Some funding results in more jobs than others.
Not all cuts are created equal, and not all spending results in the same benefit. (Tax cuts result in almost no economic benefit, but unemployment results in a large economic multiplier).
(I presume you mean spending on unemployment benefits).
Clearly, but as a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) I think the back of the envelope is within a factor of two of reality. i.e. The jobs impact of a $60B cut in the federal budget would eliminate ~100K to 400K direct federal and first-line contractor jobs. (I'm not counting the ripple effects of the loss of those jobs on other folks like the grocery store clerk etc...). In the worst case scenario this is comparable to the total number rdowns was saying are employed by the top 10 defense contractors.
My point was that any cut in spending that is large enough to make a real difference in reducing the deficit will result in large numbers of lost jobs.
I think it would be nice if the online balance the 2015 budget tool from earlier in the thread would incorporate this at some level in their model to show the expected effect of federal + direct federal contractor jobs when funds are re-allocated.
For the spending part of the equation I think this can be estimated directly from current reality, you could count the dollars spent and jobs created within the federal government and first-line contractors for each department or line in the budget. However, the revenue part of it depends on how you interpret the numbers and thus on your ideology. (I think it's a weaker correlation anyhow).
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Not all cuts are created equal, and not all spending results in the same benefit. (Tax cuts result in almost no economic benefit, but unemployment results in a large economic multiplier).
(I presume you mean spending on unemployment benefits).
Clearly, but as a SWAG (scientific wild ass guess) I think the back of the envelope is within a factor of two of reality. i.e. The jobs impact of a $60B cut in the federal budget would eliminate ~100K to 400K direct federal and first-line contractor jobs. (I'm not counting the ripple effects of the loss of those jobs on other folks like the grocery store clerk etc...). In the worst case scenario this is comparable to the total number rdowns was saying are employed by the top 10 defense contractors.
My point was that any cut in spending that is large enough to make a real difference in reducing the deficit will result in large numbers of lost jobs.
I think it would be nice if the online balance the 2015 budget tool from earlier in the thread would incorporate this at some level in their model to show the expected effect of federal + direct federal contractor jobs when funds are re-allocated.
For the spending part of the equation I think this can be estimated directly from current reality, you could count the dollars spent and jobs created within the federal government and first-line contractors for each department or line in the budget. However, the revenue part of it depends on how you interpret the numbers and thus on your ideology. (I think it's a weaker correlation anyhow).
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sierra oscar
Nov 7, 01:44 AM
I Think C2D MacBook Tomorrow But Election May Delay A Day.
Nothing different except C2D at same speeds, 3GB option, 160GB and 200GB HD Offerings.
Fair thought - but aren't Apple a Global company with a global product? I would have thought anything local wouldn't impact on a worldwide strategy...but then again...
Nothing different except C2D at same speeds, 3GB option, 160GB and 200GB HD Offerings.
Fair thought - but aren't Apple a Global company with a global product? I would have thought anything local wouldn't impact on a worldwide strategy...but then again...

klerke
Apr 12, 01:15 PM
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Finally a comment from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
If you want to red pill of anything real meaningfully, start listing to Noam Chomsky.
Finally a comment from someone who actually knows what he's talking about.
If you want to red pill of anything real meaningfully, start listing to Noam Chomsky.

mBox
Apr 15, 12:28 AM
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If you think about it, it's not all too surprising that some of these "professionals" are getting so worked up and sulky over this release. The notion that "pro editing" can belong to just about anyone, rather than an exclusive circle of elites, poses an existential crisis. Apple's re-thinking of editing is also a re-thinking of what it means to be "professional". The announcement sheds light on a future in which their "advanced", learned techniques are no longer advantageous. The "industry pros" are facing the plight of impending impotence. It's not something anyone would really openly admit, but I think they're feeling a bit naked, stripped of their status.
Who can blame them for being pissy?being one of them, I can honestly say were just a bunch of jaded ***** ;)
Yea this is old news to me. I was there when FCP first came out and the Premiere/Media100 folks were in a tiff about Apple getting to close to the mid-range cause then Avid was around 100k for a turn-key system.
its old news, everyone likes to complain.
I was at the SuperMeet still fresh from hearing Avid and Kevin Smith lovefest.
I did not see that demo coming ;)
I was floored and cant wait to see what the future holds for all interfaces.
Please folks get off the iMovie already.
This new GUI reminds me of a lot of older/newer higher-end apps such as Resolve, Composer (SGI sad answer to After Effects), etc...
Its not iMovie unless you treat it like iMovie :P
If you think about it, it's not all too surprising that some of these "professionals" are getting so worked up and sulky over this release. The notion that "pro editing" can belong to just about anyone, rather than an exclusive circle of elites, poses an existential crisis. Apple's re-thinking of editing is also a re-thinking of what it means to be "professional". The announcement sheds light on a future in which their "advanced", learned techniques are no longer advantageous. The "industry pros" are facing the plight of impending impotence. It's not something anyone would really openly admit, but I think they're feeling a bit naked, stripped of their status.
Who can blame them for being pissy?being one of them, I can honestly say were just a bunch of jaded ***** ;)
Yea this is old news to me. I was there when FCP first came out and the Premiere/Media100 folks were in a tiff about Apple getting to close to the mid-range cause then Avid was around 100k for a turn-key system.
its old news, everyone likes to complain.
I was at the SuperMeet still fresh from hearing Avid and Kevin Smith lovefest.
I did not see that demo coming ;)
I was floored and cant wait to see what the future holds for all interfaces.
Please folks get off the iMovie already.
This new GUI reminds me of a lot of older/newer higher-end apps such as Resolve, Composer (SGI sad answer to After Effects), etc...
Its not iMovie unless you treat it like iMovie :P

justaregularjoe
Oct 13, 08:27 PM
Sure but it's tiny and i think i drew it out of portion as that bed i drew looks giant!
Lol You are my hero. Thanks, that gives me an idea of what to do around here.
That's pretty badass!
Lol You are my hero. Thanks, that gives me an idea of what to do around here.
That's pretty badass!

Draythor
Jan 11, 04:43 PM
Hmm. Something wireless. :rolleyes:
My sentiments exactly.
My sentiments exactly.

MacFly123
Nov 2, 04:29 PM
FLASH
Apple does not care to support flash on their devices because it is horribly inefficient and has been holding back progression of the internet for over a decade. Instead of using much more efficient open standards that the world wide web is founded upon, companies like Adobe and Microsoft are more interested in locking you into their inferior technologies in order to maintain revenue! Until Flash dies Apple will continue to support the progression of the internet using approved standards!
FLASH SUCKS! GO SUCK ONE ADOBE! :p
Apple does not care to support flash on their devices because it is horribly inefficient and has been holding back progression of the internet for over a decade. Instead of using much more efficient open standards that the world wide web is founded upon, companies like Adobe and Microsoft are more interested in locking you into their inferior technologies in order to maintain revenue! Until Flash dies Apple will continue to support the progression of the internet using approved standards!
FLASH SUCKS! GO SUCK ONE ADOBE! :p

puckhead193
Oct 15, 04:02 PM
HAHAHA, i'm guessing Gates never had his way with the ladies ;)
"NOOO I don't want to talk to that girl and ask for her phone number... instead i'll beam over mine number to her"
No more than sucking on someone's tongue. :)
hahahahahahahaha
"NOOO I don't want to talk to that girl and ask for her phone number... instead i'll beam over mine number to her"
No more than sucking on someone's tongue. :)
hahahahahahahaha

me354
Sep 4, 10:56 AM
i find it hard to believe that apple has had almost a year to add improvements to the ipods and all we're gonna see is upgraded hardrives.. dont they have an entire division working on these ipods.. they must have figured something out in that amount of time
predictions:
Core 2 Duo Imacs
True Video ipod
bumped nano harddrives(new enclosure?)
one more thing....?
predictions:
Core 2 Duo Imacs
True Video ipod
bumped nano harddrives(new enclosure?)
one more thing....?

DJMastaWes
Aug 3, 02:50 PM
After it's done I presume.
That sucks.. that's like around 5:00PM my time.
That sucks.. that's like around 5:00PM my time.
coolbreeze
Apr 2, 01:40 AM
I sure hope iPhone 5 gets a 8 megapixel camera no matter who makes it...
just to shut up these iPhone 4 users who want minimal upgrade for iPhone 5 because their contracts aren't up and still want their phones to look up to date
U Mad? :confused:
just to shut up these iPhone 4 users who want minimal upgrade for iPhone 5 because their contracts aren't up and still want their phones to look up to date
U Mad? :confused:

huntson
Apr 13, 07:46 PM
As for 'professionals' getting pissy:
I don't think any of them care too much about the new features as much as they care about the speed updates. That's the biggest benefit for them.
The 'quick' editing features are useful for some 'pro' edits, definitely useful for a pro-sumer.
My best friend is an editor in a production house in Hollywood and his concern was that they didn't talk about tape workflow, video in/out cards, 3rd party support or XML-based export - among other things.
Just the concern is that they re-built the app and added a lot of GUI and 'smart' features but they didn't say anything about the dirty nuts & bolts.
So - it's an area of concern.
If Apple did what they did with iMove - re-built it from the ground up and removed features (most of which were re-added in the next version)
Well that would be a concern as the 'new' version wouldn't have support for their existing workflows.
(not workflows like "we like to do things this way" more workflows like "because of how this was shot or because we need to export to this specific tape deck" workflows that you can't really mess with)
It's mundane stuff to 'fans' and 'prosumers' but critical for higher end production houses.
A lot of people (me included) were pretty annoyed when Quicktime X came out with fewer features than QT7 . . .
As for the other reason editors might be grumpy:
Some of their 'work' will be partially replaced by smart features.
So they might worry that their exec sees this and gets rid of their assistant because "the software can do it!" which isn't necessarily the case.
Professionals get grumpy when all of a sudden software allows people to do things that used to be their 'trick' exclusively.
Old designers complain about Creative Suite, photographers complain about Photoshop/Lightroom/Aperture, music producers complain about Pro Tools and now editors will complain about Final Cut.
Speaking of Quicktime 7 - know anything that adds those features back?
I don't think any of them care too much about the new features as much as they care about the speed updates. That's the biggest benefit for them.
The 'quick' editing features are useful for some 'pro' edits, definitely useful for a pro-sumer.
My best friend is an editor in a production house in Hollywood and his concern was that they didn't talk about tape workflow, video in/out cards, 3rd party support or XML-based export - among other things.
Just the concern is that they re-built the app and added a lot of GUI and 'smart' features but they didn't say anything about the dirty nuts & bolts.
So - it's an area of concern.
If Apple did what they did with iMove - re-built it from the ground up and removed features (most of which were re-added in the next version)
Well that would be a concern as the 'new' version wouldn't have support for their existing workflows.
(not workflows like "we like to do things this way" more workflows like "because of how this was shot or because we need to export to this specific tape deck" workflows that you can't really mess with)
It's mundane stuff to 'fans' and 'prosumers' but critical for higher end production houses.
A lot of people (me included) were pretty annoyed when Quicktime X came out with fewer features than QT7 . . .
As for the other reason editors might be grumpy:
Some of their 'work' will be partially replaced by smart features.
So they might worry that their exec sees this and gets rid of their assistant because "the software can do it!" which isn't necessarily the case.
Professionals get grumpy when all of a sudden software allows people to do things that used to be their 'trick' exclusively.
Old designers complain about Creative Suite, photographers complain about Photoshop/Lightroom/Aperture, music producers complain about Pro Tools and now editors will complain about Final Cut.
Speaking of Quicktime 7 - know anything that adds those features back?

Paix247
Jan 11, 01:19 PM
Yes! Something interesting to discuss on a slow Friday afternoon.
PLEASE be a 12" MacBook Pro for $1799 or less! :D
PLEASE be a 12" MacBook Pro for $1799 or less! :D

KeithJenner
Nov 25, 02:12 PM
:D Keith, how do you like it. Is there a major difference between that set and the mono set. I am curious because I have been eyeing that purchase.
I assume that you have the Mono set. If so, you have the better one (other than missing Abbey Road and Let It Be. As has been said many times they are better mixes and the differences are fairly significant in places. Due to the differences, it's easier to argue that you need the both.
I like the Mono set packaging, with the replica sleeves, but the stereo set packaging is also very good with better sleeve notes and the mini documentaries. The box set comes with all the documentaries on one DVD which is better than watching them individually on the CD's
Go on, you know you want to. :)
I assume that you have the Mono set. If so, you have the better one (other than missing Abbey Road and Let It Be. As has been said many times they are better mixes and the differences are fairly significant in places. Due to the differences, it's easier to argue that you need the both.
I like the Mono set packaging, with the replica sleeves, but the stereo set packaging is also very good with better sleeve notes and the mini documentaries. The box set comes with all the documentaries on one DVD which is better than watching them individually on the CD's
Go on, you know you want to. :)

reynavictor
Apr 12, 12:26 PM
This is long overdue for Foxconn. What if a natural disaster happened (heaven forbid) in Shenzhen?
mctrees02
Mar 28, 09:26 PM
Sadly, Vegas will cost you more for a week than SF (if you want to do it "right").
It all depends what you want to do in Vegas. If you're wanting to go to restaurants, shows, and/or spa then $1500 is plenty for a few nights of that and you'll have some left over for quarter VP/slots. If you're wanting to go to the club and buy 4 bottles every night...then $1500 isn't going to get you very far.
It all depends what you want to do in Vegas. If you're wanting to go to restaurants, shows, and/or spa then $1500 is plenty for a few nights of that and you'll have some left over for quarter VP/slots. If you're wanting to go to the club and buy 4 bottles every night...then $1500 isn't going to get you very far.
MikeTheC
Aug 30, 10:50 PM
Back on topic...
I don't know why people are going on and on about the $400 price for Windows Vista Ultimate version. That's a retail price, just like the $300 retail price for windows XP. Only an idiot would buy a retail version of windows when you can get the same full install (not an upgrade) oem version for a fraction of that price.
A retail version of Windows XP professional SP2 is $300 at compUSA and the OEM of XP pro SP2 is $130 at my local PC parts store.
Retail pricing isn't even worth discussing unless Microsoft decides to end oem sales of windows.
Of course, that also assumes that the average person walking into a major retailer would or could know that little bit of info.
Personally, I have no plans whatsoever to buy Vista. I'm not a gamer, I neither develop in or have a need to use apps built in VB or MSAccess. I no longer work for Sony supporting PCs running Windows, and so frankly I have no need for anything other than a Mac.
And frankly if I ever decided to get into gaming (not impossible, but highly doubtful) I'd probably just get a gaming console and hook it up to my LCD panel.
I don't know why people are going on and on about the $400 price for Windows Vista Ultimate version. That's a retail price, just like the $300 retail price for windows XP. Only an idiot would buy a retail version of windows when you can get the same full install (not an upgrade) oem version for a fraction of that price.
A retail version of Windows XP professional SP2 is $300 at compUSA and the OEM of XP pro SP2 is $130 at my local PC parts store.
Retail pricing isn't even worth discussing unless Microsoft decides to end oem sales of windows.
Of course, that also assumes that the average person walking into a major retailer would or could know that little bit of info.
Personally, I have no plans whatsoever to buy Vista. I'm not a gamer, I neither develop in or have a need to use apps built in VB or MSAccess. I no longer work for Sony supporting PCs running Windows, and so frankly I have no need for anything other than a Mac.
And frankly if I ever decided to get into gaming (not impossible, but highly doubtful) I'd probably just get a gaming console and hook it up to my LCD panel.
bdj21ya
Nov 27, 10:30 AM
I could care less about the Beatles, but if this means the whole "Apple" issue is amicably and finally resolved, then I think it's outstanding. :)
Do you mean "couldn't care less", because otherwise your post is pretty confusing.
I'm not a big Beatles fan, but I'd probably buy 1 or 2 songs if they put em on iTunes. Even so, I think this would be a deal maker for a lot of people. Especially if they come out with a Beatles branded iPod.
Do you mean "couldn't care less", because otherwise your post is pretty confusing.
I'm not a big Beatles fan, but I'd probably buy 1 or 2 songs if they put em on iTunes. Even so, I think this would be a deal maker for a lot of people. Especially if they come out with a Beatles branded iPod.
failsafe1
Jan 10, 02:24 PM
I always hear people say, "I don't like the Beatles, but I like this song..."
What does this mean???:confused:
Is it me, or are they confused...
I am one of the folks who say that. I am not a fan of the band or group. It might mean I don't like what they might stand for, or their individual ideas so I don't buy every thing they do or did. It usually means that I don't like the sound or style of the bulk of their catalog. An example would be not liking a particular genre of music but finding one song I enjoy out of that genre. I don't like country music as a type but I have a few songs in my library that are country tunes. But I might put all that aside and enjoy one or two songs from an artist that I don't particularly like. I have had artists that I liked so much I bought everything they did only to later look back and say wha??? Why did I do that?
What does this mean???:confused:
Is it me, or are they confused...
I am one of the folks who say that. I am not a fan of the band or group. It might mean I don't like what they might stand for, or their individual ideas so I don't buy every thing they do or did. It usually means that I don't like the sound or style of the bulk of their catalog. An example would be not liking a particular genre of music but finding one song I enjoy out of that genre. I don't like country music as a type but I have a few songs in my library that are country tunes. But I might put all that aside and enjoy one or two songs from an artist that I don't particularly like. I have had artists that I liked so much I bought everything they did only to later look back and say wha??? Why did I do that?
MISSLAY
Mar 29, 08:21 AM
Just picked up my ipad 2 @ Radio Shack in NYC! They appear to be bundling in the AppleCare. Cant buy without it. so were there long lines at radio shack ? how much is the apple care pk










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