jefhatfield
Jun 11, 05:50 AM
Originally posted by markjs
I am a confirmed PC user, you might call me a PC biggot because I will defend my PC preference to the death. Primarily I like the PC because of it's gaming ability, combined with internet access, and the fact I could afford it and am able to build and upgrade it myself cheaply while still buying high quality parts. My PC is a modest:
Athlon XP 1700+
ECS K7S5A Mainboard
512MB PC2100
SB Live Value
Onboard Lan
ATI Radeon 8500LE 64MB
Realtek PCI NIC
Western Digital 40GB and 20GB 7200RPM ATA 100 hard disks
Running Windows XP Professional Service pack 1
What I am getting at by this post, is why are Mac people so biggoted against the PC. Another guy made a post somewhere else about how maybe one in fifteen PC users is anti Mac, but more like one in two Mac users is anti PC. What can a Mac user do that I can't? I do audio and video editing on my PC, I can't think of anything a Mac can do my computer can't (and I'll wager I'll do anything cheaper, and being poor that's a serious consideration to me), and what is the big draw to the Mac. I realize this isn't the best forum for a two sided debate, but I am thowing it out there anyway.
Note: I really don't want to hear how Windows sucks, because the newest version is very easily useable and quite stable and I personally know at least one person who likes Windows XP as much as OSX and uses both regularly. Granted Win 98 was a steaming pile o' dog doo and so was ME, but since 2K Windows has been very viable. Another thing to consider is that Windows is written to work on hundreds....even thousands of hardware configurations, when Mac OS needs to work on maybe 10.....That itself aquits even Windows 95 rather nicely. Besides I can run Linux or other flavors of Unix on my PC should I choose. My inquiry is about the hardware....why do you love it so much it makes you hate PC's
PS I know two people who have switched from Mac personally, so it goes both ways.
it really comes down to preference and today, the computer user has a choice between two stable operating systems...os x and windows xp
on the mac side, os 9 had its issues of not being able to recover from a crash of an application while windows 2000 had a weak hardware compatibility list and was not always friendly with graphics related/game related software
there seems to be very little difference between pc hardware and apple hardware...the big issue of why people like macs are in the overall experience of how the mac os interfaces with the user
in the dark days of windows me and of some versions of windows 95, the mac people really had a point when they said their macs were easier to use
ps - i will admit that macs are much prettier to look at, but alien pcs and some sony gear comes close to being just as cool as a mac
still, the pc world doesn't have something quite as sleek and cool as the lcd imac or the cube
as for laptops, i think macs and pcs are basically the same in looks since the mobile macs are basically either silver or white and very square looking...fujitsu makes some laptops which look very much like the current ibook...but the fujitsu laptops came out before the ibook, *dual usb icebook design that apple now uses
i do love my old style clamshell ibook and i miss the fact that apple does not seem to have a playful laptop like that in their line
i would like to see apple make at least one laptop line and one desktop line with colored plastic again
I am a confirmed PC user, you might call me a PC biggot because I will defend my PC preference to the death. Primarily I like the PC because of it's gaming ability, combined with internet access, and the fact I could afford it and am able to build and upgrade it myself cheaply while still buying high quality parts. My PC is a modest:
Athlon XP 1700+
ECS K7S5A Mainboard
512MB PC2100
SB Live Value
Onboard Lan
ATI Radeon 8500LE 64MB
Realtek PCI NIC
Western Digital 40GB and 20GB 7200RPM ATA 100 hard disks
Running Windows XP Professional Service pack 1
What I am getting at by this post, is why are Mac people so biggoted against the PC. Another guy made a post somewhere else about how maybe one in fifteen PC users is anti Mac, but more like one in two Mac users is anti PC. What can a Mac user do that I can't? I do audio and video editing on my PC, I can't think of anything a Mac can do my computer can't (and I'll wager I'll do anything cheaper, and being poor that's a serious consideration to me), and what is the big draw to the Mac. I realize this isn't the best forum for a two sided debate, but I am thowing it out there anyway.
Note: I really don't want to hear how Windows sucks, because the newest version is very easily useable and quite stable and I personally know at least one person who likes Windows XP as much as OSX and uses both regularly. Granted Win 98 was a steaming pile o' dog doo and so was ME, but since 2K Windows has been very viable. Another thing to consider is that Windows is written to work on hundreds....even thousands of hardware configurations, when Mac OS needs to work on maybe 10.....That itself aquits even Windows 95 rather nicely. Besides I can run Linux or other flavors of Unix on my PC should I choose. My inquiry is about the hardware....why do you love it so much it makes you hate PC's
PS I know two people who have switched from Mac personally, so it goes both ways.
it really comes down to preference and today, the computer user has a choice between two stable operating systems...os x and windows xp
on the mac side, os 9 had its issues of not being able to recover from a crash of an application while windows 2000 had a weak hardware compatibility list and was not always friendly with graphics related/game related software
there seems to be very little difference between pc hardware and apple hardware...the big issue of why people like macs are in the overall experience of how the mac os interfaces with the user
in the dark days of windows me and of some versions of windows 95, the mac people really had a point when they said their macs were easier to use
ps - i will admit that macs are much prettier to look at, but alien pcs and some sony gear comes close to being just as cool as a mac
still, the pc world doesn't have something quite as sleek and cool as the lcd imac or the cube
as for laptops, i think macs and pcs are basically the same in looks since the mobile macs are basically either silver or white and very square looking...fujitsu makes some laptops which look very much like the current ibook...but the fujitsu laptops came out before the ibook, *dual usb icebook design that apple now uses
i do love my old style clamshell ibook and i miss the fact that apple does not seem to have a playful laptop like that in their line
i would like to see apple make at least one laptop line and one desktop line with colored plastic again
rdowns
Mar 16, 09:12 AM
Maybe if people who buy cars only for the name and because it was (or is perceived) to be built in America would have stopped this insanity 30 years ago, we'd have American car companies more able to compete today.
There it is folks. The American consumer is at fault for the problems of the US auto industry.
There it is folks. The American consumer is at fault for the problems of the US auto industry.
teme
Apr 5, 08:45 AM
I don't buy it. What a nightmare that would be if just touching that area of the iPod took you back to the home screen. (Even the MacBook trackpads require a physical 'click' in order to register.) This would be a usability disaster.
I agree. When I'm holding my iPod horizontally, I usually always rest my thumb over home button.
I agree. When I'm holding my iPod horizontally, I usually always rest my thumb over home button.
DeSnousa
May 14, 07:43 PM
ok, if you can spend about $1,100 US dollars then i'd go for an i7 930 system. that way it's plenty upgradeable and depending on the motherboard, you can add GPUs later.
do you plan to build yourself?
I did plan on building myself but I might get the store to do it for me. I have done HDD, GPUS, CD drives, Ram. I'm just have not done the CPU and I am affraid I will bend all the bits on it. Also all the cords that attach everywhere might confuse me, like power on button.
Would I need to overclock the 930 system, never done a thing like that before. Does it really add to the ppd, also I will be using the system myself so it will not fold 24/7.
Would a good GPU not be better then a Intel 930?
do you plan to build yourself?
I did plan on building myself but I might get the store to do it for me. I have done HDD, GPUS, CD drives, Ram. I'm just have not done the CPU and I am affraid I will bend all the bits on it. Also all the cords that attach everywhere might confuse me, like power on button.
Would I need to overclock the 930 system, never done a thing like that before. Does it really add to the ppd, also I will be using the system myself so it will not fold 24/7.
Would a good GPU not be better then a Intel 930?
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DeSnousa
May 3, 06:11 PM
Welcome MacInside_Octo1 to the team.
Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=512266
Your stats: http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_summary.php?s=&u=512266
avigalante
Mar 26, 04:10 PM
After all the posts on Apple v. Google, this should really be pg. 1 news...
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weg
Nov 14, 10:14 AM
"Mummy, why is that man watching those naked people doing things to each other." :p
"Because he's a pervert, son. Stop staring at his screen and keep watching how the American hero slaughters evil terrorists with his machine gun on your TV screen."
Technically, people were able to watch porn on their notebooks during a flight, and so far this hasn't been an issue, has it?
"Because he's a pervert, son. Stop staring at his screen and keep watching how the American hero slaughters evil terrorists with his machine gun on your TV screen."
Technically, people were able to watch porn on their notebooks during a flight, and so far this hasn't been an issue, has it?
str1f3
Dec 27, 07:57 PM
I have to say that LIVEFRMNYC's chat makes more sense than the Consumerist's. Fraud would certainly be reason for preventing only online sales. My guess is that the Consumerist got a typically uninformed call center employee.
Why would that make more sense with one city? The fraudulent claims would have to be more than the iPhones they sell online in NYC. There are more iPhone users here than any other city in the world.
Also you would have to say the Consumerist (well-respected blog) is lying and AT&T isn't. Do you really believe that? The original reason the Consumerist went after this story was that people were having this problem and they initiated their own investigation.
Why would that make more sense with one city? The fraudulent claims would have to be more than the iPhones they sell online in NYC. There are more iPhone users here than any other city in the world.
Also you would have to say the Consumerist (well-respected blog) is lying and AT&T isn't. Do you really believe that? The original reason the Consumerist went after this story was that people were having this problem and they initiated their own investigation.
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robbieduncan
Sep 25, 11:13 AM
Is there shown any RAW cameras supported in 1.5 that weren't in the current version? I wasn't up on that since mine was supported and that's all that mattered to me, but if there are new camera's supported it would point to 10.4.8 to be released later this week too.
See the previous posts. A number of Fuji cameras that were not supported now are.
See the previous posts. A number of Fuji cameras that were not supported now are.
thebubbatex
Apr 12, 04:43 PM
Will all the resellers buying all the AT&T versions I call BS on those stats.
Go to a store and I guarantee you can't buy an at&t model, but vzw are in stock everywhere.
There is NO way Vzw is outselling AT&T version, NO way, it's impossible.
My guess is maybe people in the mid-west would PREFER vzw, but they'll never buy one anyway...
Does not say anything about what is SELLING right now - this is a survey about intentions to buy.
Go to a store and I guarantee you can't buy an at&t model, but vzw are in stock everywhere.
There is NO way Vzw is outselling AT&T version, NO way, it's impossible.
My guess is maybe people in the mid-west would PREFER vzw, but they'll never buy one anyway...
Does not say anything about what is SELLING right now - this is a survey about intentions to buy.
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Nym
Nov 14, 01:44 PM
All we can do is try to live our lives as best we can. That can be done within a religion, or without.
Exactly, I agree with you, like I said, Christmas is a word to be taken by its "happy" meaning, I too celebrate Christmas as a time of peace and all that even though I'm not religious. and I agree with people being too intolerant these days about these sensitive issues.
However, I was talking about Catholicism because in my country 90% of all the population follows that particular branch of Christianity and I know first-hand how badly it is misinterpreted these days, it's an excuse for sexism, racism, homophobia, xenophobia and all the things that make me sad about the human being (in my country of course, maybe there the situation's different).
As you can see by the things that I dislike about the human race, I'm truly an anti-prejudice/discrimination person, and If you thought that I made any offensive comment to you or anybody, it was not the reason why I posted in the first time, I only thought that Mike's first comment was extremely aggressive to other people's religions, as you see, I didn't even relate to what he said but I felt the need to intervene.
Hope that clears it up.
BTW - I cannot post in the new thread you created so.. I guess my contribution will end here :)
Exactly, I agree with you, like I said, Christmas is a word to be taken by its "happy" meaning, I too celebrate Christmas as a time of peace and all that even though I'm not religious. and I agree with people being too intolerant these days about these sensitive issues.
However, I was talking about Catholicism because in my country 90% of all the population follows that particular branch of Christianity and I know first-hand how badly it is misinterpreted these days, it's an excuse for sexism, racism, homophobia, xenophobia and all the things that make me sad about the human being (in my country of course, maybe there the situation's different).
As you can see by the things that I dislike about the human race, I'm truly an anti-prejudice/discrimination person, and If you thought that I made any offensive comment to you or anybody, it was not the reason why I posted in the first time, I only thought that Mike's first comment was extremely aggressive to other people's religions, as you see, I didn't even relate to what he said but I felt the need to intervene.
Hope that clears it up.
BTW - I cannot post in the new thread you created so.. I guess my contribution will end here :)
rcm3
Oct 26, 08:11 PM
Can somebody explain to me why anybody would want to pay $100/year for an email account with only 1 GB of storage?
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alFR
Sep 26, 01:54 AM
See that roughly spherical, green/red piece of fruit in your lunchbox? Better start thinking of another name for it before the cease-and-desist letters start arriving....
twoodcc
Feb 20, 09:14 PM
so any updates for this? cuz the widget doesn't seem to be working for me
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tsadi
Apr 5, 10:45 AM
Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 4_3_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/533.17.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Mobile/8G4)
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THX1139
Sep 22, 03:20 AM
How did they verify your educational status? I've ordered 3 personal computers from Apple over the years, but I don't ever remember having to verify my educational status as a teacher.
I had to verify because I applied for a Student Developer membership. I was required to fax a copy of my current class schedule along with my student ID and drivers license. Once the membership was verified they processed my hardware order. If you are going for the regular educational discount, they don't always ask for verification. However, because they give a hefty developer discount, I'm sure they want to make sure you're a legitimate student.
I had to verify because I applied for a Student Developer membership. I was required to fax a copy of my current class schedule along with my student ID and drivers license. Once the membership was verified they processed my hardware order. If you are going for the regular educational discount, they don't always ask for verification. However, because they give a hefty developer discount, I'm sure they want to make sure you're a legitimate student.
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talkingfuture
Mar 26, 03:14 PM
Now thats a publicity stunt if ever I saw one!
macgeek18
Apr 18, 11:19 PM
$4.39 for unleaded.
sterno74
Nov 2, 10:05 AM
I can personally attest to being somebody who just switched to a mac. I've always wanted to own a Mac but didn't want to chance abandoning Windows completely. I'm a gamer and there's a few other apps that just don't exist for Apple that I use. Now I've got a Mac Pro dual booting OSX and XP Pro 64-bit.
It's much easier to justify the switch when you know you can always switch back if you just don't like it.
It's much easier to justify the switch when you know you can always switch back if you just don't like it.
Rt&Dzine
May 1, 02:07 PM
The fact that Trump complimented Obama about bin Laden, and is now temporarily laying low, makes me believe he's serious about running for president. Strategical move on his part.
London Lad
Nov 22, 03:41 AM
I thought you guys in the USA encouraged free enterprise !!!
Even if these goods came from Foxconn (which I doubt) if Apple ordered some items then rejected them (and I assume didn't pay for them) they would still belong to Foxconn. If Foxconn threw them away then they abandoned title to them and they cant be stolen.
Last time I looked it was not illegal to export to the USA so as long as the tax man gets his share of the profit what's the problem?
I think it's more likely he just had them copied.
Sheesh, what happened to innocent till proven guilty ? Its not for him to prove anything.
Even if these goods came from Foxconn (which I doubt) if Apple ordered some items then rejected them (and I assume didn't pay for them) they would still belong to Foxconn. If Foxconn threw them away then they abandoned title to them and they cant be stolen.
Last time I looked it was not illegal to export to the USA so as long as the tax man gets his share of the profit what's the problem?
I think it's more likely he just had them copied.
Sheesh, what happened to innocent till proven guilty ? Its not for him to prove anything.
0010101
Nov 14, 07:59 PM
Uhh.. yea. I think the moral of the story, as exhibited here on this thread, is that some things are best left neutral.
An old saying in sales is that there are two things you NEVER discuss with a potential customer: Politics and Religion.
The reason is simply because many people have their own beliefs and views, and in the case of religion and politics, they are often very strong views, which they will defend militantly.
I personally don't care, or am the slightest bit offended, if someone wishes me a 'Merry Christmas', a 'Happy Kwanzaa', a 'Jovial Hog Raping Day', or any of the probably hundreds of 'holidays' that exist throughout the year.
For the purposes of selling Macs to people, I think it's best to simply say 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas! Vote Republican!'
An old saying in sales is that there are two things you NEVER discuss with a potential customer: Politics and Religion.
The reason is simply because many people have their own beliefs and views, and in the case of religion and politics, they are often very strong views, which they will defend militantly.
I personally don't care, or am the slightest bit offended, if someone wishes me a 'Merry Christmas', a 'Happy Kwanzaa', a 'Jovial Hog Raping Day', or any of the probably hundreds of 'holidays' that exist throughout the year.
For the purposes of selling Macs to people, I think it's best to simply say 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas! Vote Republican!'
DonMoeMU
Apr 12, 02:47 PM
WTF? Why does the MS Office updater force me to quit chrome ????
This update also makes you quit Safari too. I would like to know what the reasoning is there. hmmm
This update also makes you quit Safari too. I would like to know what the reasoning is there. hmmm
brepublican
Aug 28, 01:18 PM
I don't care to argue about the effectiveness of the adds. But I will say that the Angel/Devil one was kinda stupid. It didn't even advertise Macs. I think I am tiring of the format of the commercials. I would like to see one show just what can be done with OS X.
I thought it was just me, but I am stumped by that one. Its kinda... just... stupid? :confused:
I thought it was just me, but I am stumped by that one. Its kinda... just... stupid? :confused:
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